The Debate Continues: The Best Players in Ligue 1

By: Sarah | November 1st, 2009

Who are the best players in Ligue 1?


A few weeks ago, Thomas proposed his list of Ligue 1’s top 50 players.  While there were some suggested changes to move a few players a few slots up or down in the comments– in general the readers (or at least those who felt strongly enough to comment) seemed to agree with his list.  I had been thinking about this list myself when the Castrol rankings were revealed last week.  So, I thought– how would the “objective measurements” used in the Castrol rankings system compare to a more opinionated list that included less quantifiable types of measurements– such as beauty of performance, personality showed on and off the pitch, previous displays of ability in prior seasons, loyalty to team– qualities in players that inspires fans to buy tickets, watch games in rain or shine, buy their jerseys and demand to know more about them as people.

So What are the Castrol Rankings?

The Castrol index is based on the amount of points a player scores using a formula designed by “Castrol performance analysts”.  Points are calculated based on quantifiable, objective measurements which are taken during the course of the game.  Here are some examples of ways players can earn and lose points during the course of a game (please note that this list is not exhaustive).

Ways to Earn Points

  • Successful tackles, interceptions and blocked shots (weighted based on how close it happens to the penalty box)
  • Scoring a goal (all goals worth equal value)
  • Successful pass completions (weighted based on where on the field the pass is made from and where it is received on the field so passes made within your own half are worth less points).
  • Assisting a goal
  • Creating chances (making a pass that allows a teammate to make an attempt on goal, includes goal assists)
  • Goal Attempts (weighted so that on-target attempts are worth more points than off-target attempts)
  • Winning a Duel (this includes getting the opponent to force a foul, winning an aerial duel and a successful dribble)
  • Successful blocks (for goalies these points are weighted based on how the goalie blocked the goal– for example, forcing a corner would receive less points)
  • Saving a shot (for goalies, these points are weighted based on how the goalie saves the shot– diving, standing, parry or catching the ball)
  • Maintaining a clean sheet (goalies only)

Ways to Lose Points

  • Unsuccessful Pass Completions (weighted based on where on the field the pass is intercepted)
  • Losing a Duel (this includes forcing a foul, unsuccessful dribbling, unsuccessful tackling and being beaten in an aerial duel)
  • Allowing a goal (goalie)
  • Unsuccessful tackles, interceptions and blocked shots (weighted based on how close it happens to the penalty box)

To compile these points, the Castrol “performance analysts” review every movement and action performed in a game.  Once they have analyzed all the action, they are then able to assign each player a score out of 10 (higher scores indicate a better performance).

For these scores to be used in the ranking system, they first have to be crunched and weighted to take into consideration the importance of each match played.  For this system, European games are deemed to be more important, and thus worth more points, than regular league games.  Once the scores have been weighted, the points are then used in another formula to provide each player with an average of their playing ability over 90 minutes.  For more information on the formula’s used please visit Castrol’s website, particularly the FAQ, information on the index section, and information on the rankings section.

So What is Ligue 1’s weighted value?

As I mentioned before, the ranking system weights the leagues based on difficulty and strength.  The ranking of the leagues is:

1. UEFA Champions League Knockout stage
2. UEFA Champions League Group Stage
3. Spain La Liga Primera Division
4. England Premier league
5. Germany Bundesliga
6. Italy Serie A
7. France Ligue 1

Though these weights can be adjusted at the end of the season to reflect any changes in the strengths of the domestic leagues.

And how did Ligue 1 players Fare?

*Please note that the ranking column refers to the players ranking in the overall, aggregate Castrol rankings.  So, the highest placed Ligue 1 player, who is 24th in the aggregate rankings, would therefore be the number 1 player in Ligue 1 (according to the Castrol rankings system).



Castrol’s Top 20                                                                     The Offside’s Top 20

Last Import - 2Nov 1, 2009 - 08

Notice any differences?  It gets even better the farther down the rankings we go…..

Castro’s 20-40                                                                       The Offside’s 20-40

Last Import - 4Nov 1, 2009 - 09

Castro’s 41-50                                                                         The Offside’s 41-50

Last Import - 7Nov 1, 2009 - 10

Most Shocking Difference?

So who were you shocked by when we looked at the “objective facts”?  Are there players that we overrated?  Or does the Castro system no take into account all the factors that make great players great?

Biggest shocks for me:  Chamakh (38 vs. 10), Diarawa (42 vs. 9), Sessegnon (50 vs. 8), Douchez (1 vs not even on our list!), Carrasso (2 vs. 28), Toulalan (not on Castro’s list vs. 7)

There was definitely a higher representation of goalies in the Castro list.

Europa Cup games were not counted.

Differences in Club Representation

Marseille:  10 in Castro’s list vs. 8 in the Offside’s list
PSG: 3 in Castro’s list vs. 5 in the Offside’s list
Lyon:  5 in Castro’s list vs. 9 in the Offside’s list
Bordeaux:  8 in Castro’s list vs. 6 in the Offside’s list
Toulouse: 4 in the Castro’s list vs. 4 in the Offside’s list
St. Etienne: 1 in the Castro’s list vs. 2 in the Offside’s list
Nice: 1 in the Castro’s listvs. 1 in the Offside’s list
Monaco: 2 in the Castro’s list vs. 2 in the Offside’s list
Auxerre: 4 in the Castro’s list vs. 2 in the Offside’s list
Sochaux: 1 in the Castro’s list vs. 0 in the Offside’s list
Boulogne: 1 in the Castro’s list v. 0 in the Offside’s list
Valencienne: 3 in the Castro’s list vs. 0 in the Offside’s list
Le Mans: 0 in the Castro’s list vs. 1 in the Offside’s list
Lille: 2 in the Castro’s list  vs. 3 in the Offside’s list
Lens: 0 in the Castro’s list vs. 1 in the Offside’s list
Lorient: 1 in the Castro’s list vs. 2 in the Offside’s list
Rennes: 2 in the Castro’s list vs. 2 in the Offside’s list
Other Clubs: 0 other players vs. the Offside’s 2 players from 2 different clubs (Montpellier and Nancy)










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  • Thomas |  November 1st, 2009 at 7:27 pm

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    Excellent post. For me the most ridiculous was Gregory Wimbee at number 5. He’s Valencienne’s #3 keeper. After Penneteau and N’dy Assembe, who are hardly top 50 quality themselves.

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  • Xavier |  November 1st, 2009 at 7:44 pm

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    both lists are way off

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  • Xavier |  November 1st, 2009 at 7:45 pm

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    Actually, N’dy Assembe is a stud and one of the best up and coming keepers in the league

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  • Thomas |  November 1st, 2009 at 7:52 pm

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    Yeah, based on one performance? Did you see him against PSG? Anyway, even if he is, he’s not one of the top 50 players in Ligue 1.

    Also, I’m not doubting you, but I’d like to hear why you think mine is way off.

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  • Sarah |  November 1st, 2009 at 8:17 pm

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    Another thing I forgot to point is that while Castrol plan to analyze the World Cup (2010)– from what I understand it only intends analyze the tournament as a stand alone event. So, those player performances will not be integrated into the player’s scores. I am also not sure if the players get a clean slate every season (I assume so).

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  • Sarah |  November 1st, 2009 at 8:39 pm

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    I also seriously disagree with the rankings of the leagues– the Bundesliga and Serie A are such bores. I’m glad that the rankings takes Serie A down a few pegs, but the Bundesliga should definitely be last.

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  • Rama |  November 1st, 2009 at 8:45 pm

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    haha the castrol rankings are ridiculous. What is up with Vincent Plante? I thought he got relegated with Caen..

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  • Inara |  November 1st, 2009 at 11:50 pm

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    Haha, Douchez as one of the top 25 players overall. He’s good, but that good?

    Also, it looks like nearly every goal keeper in L1 is listed. Landreau must be feeling really left out.

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  • Jonathan |  November 2nd, 2009 at 1:41 pm

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    Rankings like Castrol’s are always going to be so perfect that they inevitably end up masking the most glaringly obvious, important and yet overlooked fact – that football is a team game in which any player should be judged on how well he fits cohesively into the team ethic.

    As an example, right now David Ngog has one of the highest goals per minute ratios in the Premier League (1 goal every 20 minutes or something). Does that make him one of the league’s best strikers? No chance. In football, sometimes the stats do lie.

    Nice list you guys have yourself btw. For me Cissokho and Matuidi would probably be slightly higher but overall difficult to argue. :-)

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  • Thomas |  November 2nd, 2009 at 2:18 pm

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    I’m of the opinion that stats lie in general.

    When I wrote the list there wasn’t a whole lot to go on with Cissokho it was mostly hype. Now he’d be higher.

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  • Julien G. |  November 2nd, 2009 at 3:26 pm

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    Alberto Costa isn’t on the list? He’s been nothing but spectacular for Montpellier, the newly promoted L1 side, he played a major part in helping them get the results they need to be where they are in the table. (currently 6th?, 2nd at one point)…

    Wendel shouldn’t be on that list to be honest…

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  • Thomas |  November 2nd, 2009 at 3:55 pm

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    Which list are you talking about? Costa’s on mine…

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